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John MORAN		Rebecca MONTIETH
	Married abt. 1858 Victoria
b. abt 1836, Dublin, Ireland[21] d. 24 May 1897[22], St. Kilda, Victoria [21] Father: John MORAN[21](coachman) Mother: Maria HYLAND[21]		bap. 14 Jan 1838, Dreenan, County Tyrone, Ireland d. 26 Aug. 1916[21], St.Kilda, Victoria Father: Joseph MONTIETH Mother: Eleanor KYLE

• Notes:
• According to their son William John's birth cert. in 1866 - John was 28 and Rebecca was 24. This was confirmed on their son Albert Victor's birth 1881 (John being noted as 45, Rebecca 42)
• John travelled to Australia , at about 18 years of age, landed in Tasmania , then two months later travelled to Melbourne. He became a storeman upon his arrival in Melbourne , a profession he continued for the rest of his life in Australia
• By 1864, John and Rebecca left the Melbourne area and moved to Emerald, Vic. In 1879 , they moved again to St. Kilda , where they stayed for the rest of their lives
• John was living in Nelson St. Kilda when he died. The house was called 'Elder Cottage' and it was owned outright by John
• According to his will John also owned three other houses. (Two houses in Nelson st, St. Kilda, one with five rooms and one with four rooms, that were rented out. And one house in Balston St. East St. Kilda of four rooms , that was also rented out but was vacant upon John's death.) Also included on the inventory were 20 chickens! John's estate totalled 781 pounds, 18 shillings, 6 pence. This estate was left , in it's entirety , to his wife Rebecca.
• Rebecca supposedly married at 16 years of age! Supposed to have married in Melbourne in 1859, but no record of this event seems to exist in official records. If the marriage did take place in 59, then Rebecca was closer to 21 than 16.
• Rebecca became a nurse sometime after Maria was born
   

1. JOSEPH ROBERT MORAN, b. 26 Oct 1860_[21], Melbourne - d. before 1898
   • Listed as six years old in 1866, on the birth cert. of his brother William John and 21 on Albert's in 1881, noted as deceased on his father's death cert 1898
     
   
   
2. MARIA "Molly" Hyland/Ireland MORAN, b. 7 Oct 1862, Melbourne, Vic - m. 31 Dec 1884, Balaclava, Vic to Frederick William LYONS
   
   
3. JOHN WILLIAM MORAN b. 1864_[20],Emerald, Victoria - d. 23 Nov 1865_[21], Victoria
   
   
4. WILLIAM "King" JOHN MORAN, b. 11 Aug 1866_[21], Carlton, Victoria - d. 26 Jan 1921_[20], St. Kilda, Victoria - m. 1900, Victoria to Marion May MERSON (1877-1960, Marion remarried after William's death to Eric Gustaf JOHNSON)
   Children:
   • William John MORAN
     
   • Marion "Maisie" May MORAN, b. 1900_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. 31 May 1977_[20], Darr., Victoria - 1st m. 1922_[20], Victoria to John Joseph GRAY (1898-1959) and she 2nd m. Reginald Kenneth DOBINSON (1901-1979)
     
   • Rebecca "Poppy" Ellen MORAN, b. 1902_[20], St. Kilda, Victoria - d. 20 Jan 1982_[20], Bundoora, Victoria - m. 1923_[20], Victoria to Macdonald WILLIAMS (1901-1992)
     Children:
     • Donald Keith WILLIAMS, b. 1928 - d. 26 Aug 1975_[20], Fitzroy, Victoria
     
     
   • William "Willie" John MORAN, b. 1908_[20], St.Kilda Victoria - d. ? - m. 1933, Victoria to Violet Emily FRY
     
   • Francis "Frankie" James MORAN, b. 1916_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. 25 Dec 1994, Victoria - m. ? to Mary ?
     
   
   
5. ELLEN "Nell" JANE MORAN, b. 1869_[20], St. Kilda, Victoria - d. 24 Feb 1938_[20], Prahran, Victoria - m. 1906_[20], Victoria to Thomas William ARROWSMITH (1856-1920)
   Ellen had an illegitimate child born in 1905_[20] called Emily Verna/Verner Moran - d. Nov 1964_[20], Carlton, Victoria (Emily 1st m. 1942_[20] to James POTTER and 2nd m. ? to Stanley Arthur DICKINS (1906-?). Upon her death Emily claimed to be a child of her mother's husband Thos. Arrowsmith, however I think her second name indicates she is the base child of John Verner, the widower of Ellen's sister Emily).
   Children:
   • Thomas John Richard ARROWSMITH, b. 1906_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. ? - m. 1937_[20], Victoria to Pearl BROWN
     
   • Victor Joseph Benjamin ARROWSMITH, b. 1910_[20], Footscray, Victoria - d. 21 Dec 2004 - m. 1934, Vic to Gladys AHERN(1913-2008)
     Children:
     • Colin James ARROWSMITH, b. abt. 1947 - d. 9 Mar 1969_[20], Rock., Victoria
     
     
   • Clarence Roy Baxter ARROWSMITH, b. 1912_[20], Prahran, Victoria - d. ?
     
   
   
6. JAMES "Jim" HUGH MORAN, b. 2 October 1870_[21], Emerald, Victoria - d. 26 May 1941, QLD - m. 10 Oct 1904, QLD to Bridget "Bridie" MCSHERRY
   Children:
   • John "Jack" Joseph MORAN, b. 9 Feb 1905, QLD - d. ?
   • Hugh MORAN, b. 6 Jun 1906, QLD - d. ?
   • Mary Rebecca MORAN, b. 1908_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. 3 Feb 1918, QLD
     
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7. REBECCA "Beck" MARGARET MORAN, b. 1873_[20], Emerald, Victoria - d. Oct 1958_[20], Melbourne, Victoria (spinster)
   
   
8. EMILY ELIZA MORAN, b. 1875_[20], Emerald, Victoria - d. 1904, Vic - m. 1901, Vic to John VERNER
   Children:
   • John Gordon VERNER, b. 6 Jun 1903, St Kilda, Vic - d. 1951, Queensland - m. ? to Ella ?
      
9. ALEXANDER MORAN, b. 1877_[20], Victoria - d. 24 Oct 1924_[20], Malvern East, Victoria - m. 30 Dec 1901_[20], Victoria to Edith Ellen PENTREATH (1874-1962)
   Children:
   • Joseph Alexander MORAN, b. 1904, Queensland - d. Nov 1985_[20], Richmond, Victoria - 1st m. 1936_[20], Victoria to Mary Alice RILEY/REILLY (1907-1948) and 2nd m. ? to E. Joy ?
   • Robert "Bob" MORAN, b. 29 Dec 1906, Queensland - d. ? - m. ? to Madge ?
   
   
10. ARTHUR EDWARD MORAN, b. 1879_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. after 1939 - unconfirmed:- m. 1901 to Alice Baker and had two daughters.
    Children:
    • Ellen Rebecca MORAN, b. 1901 - d. ?
    • Eileen Princess MORAN, b. 1904 - d. 1947, Prahran, Vic - m. 1922 at Hawskburn, Victoria to George MARSDEN
    
    
11. ALFRED VICTOR MORAN, b. 20 Sep 1881_[21], St.Kilda, Victoria - d. Feb 1953_[20], St.Kilda, Victoria - m. 1905, Vic to Ethel May PRITCHARD (1889-1943)
    Children:
    • John Howard Victor MORAN, b. 1906, St Kilda, Vic - d. Sep 1989 - m. ? to Elsie Jane ?
    • Phillis Margaret MORAN, b. 1913, St Kilda, Vic - d. ?
    
    
12. RUPERT MORAN, (mentioned in Ellen Jane's death notice 1938 & Maria's 1939, but who is he?; probably a base born child of their sister Rebecca Margaret) b. 4 Jul 1895 - d. 14 Nov 1951_[20], Melbourne, Victoria - m. Alice ?
     

Newspaper Articles!

• 15 June 1887 - John Moran of Nelson street, Balaclava, reported to the St. Kilda police that his daughter, Emily Moran, aged 11 years, went away with a girl of the same age named M'Connell on Friday afternoon last, and had not since returned They were seen in the Eastern Market on Saturday evening She is of fair complexion and hair, and was dressed in a blue gown with white spots, lace up leather boots
   
• 22 Feb 1888 - A VIOLENT ASSAULT.
  At the St Kilda Police Court on Tuesday, John Moran was charged with violently assaulting Richard Leishman on the Stb. hist., in Alford street, St Kilda There was also a cross summons charging Leishman with assault. Mr Reynolds appeared for Leishman, and Mr Daly for Moran A. witness named William Wardrop stated that on the evening of the day named Leishnmau and he were walking towards their homes, when they noticed Moran engaged with a number of boys, and heard them threaten to " screw their-necks.' Leishman, noticing one of the boys amongst the number, ordered him to run away home, and then Moran, without further provocation, struck Leishman a violent blow in the face After a short struggle on the ground, Leishman rose and was leaning against the fence, wiping blood from his face, when Moran struck him again. In cross- examination, witness admitted having formerly worked for Moran, and had a dis agreement with him. He heard Moran say to Leishman, ' 1'11 have my knife in you," meaning that he would be revenged upon him. Mr Daly argued that it was not likely that his client a respectable man and a, colonist of 35 years, would have committed an assault of the nature described without gross provocation The parties were neighbours in Nelson street and there had for a long time been ill feeling between them. The defendant, John Moran, stated that he, together with his family, were sitttng down to tea on the evening in question, when they were startled bv a shower of stones falling on the roof. Rushing out, he saw four boys, one of whom was a son of Leishman, in the act of throwing stones His son, William Moran, pursued and caught one of the boys, and witness was about to remonstrate with young Leishman, when the father came up, and, defying him to touch the boy, put him self in a fighting attitude and struck the first blow, which hit witness on the arm. In his defence he (Moran) then knocked Leishman down, and in struggling on the ground the latter pulled out a hand- ful of Morans beard. The son, William Moran, gave somewhat corrobora- tive evidence, but the mayor said that the Bench did not believe that he bad seen the assault. The magistrate decided that the evidence of the witness Wardrop might be relied on, and fined Moran in the sum 40s , with 20s costs. The cross summons was dismissed It should be stated that the witness Moran informed the Bench that during the stone throwing one of his daughters had been hit with a stone, and that she was so ill that he had requested the police to have her dying depositions taken.
   
• 18 Mar 1889 - CHARGE OF ARSON.
  On the19th ult, a boy named Alexander Moran, residing at Balaclava, was brought before the St Kilda Bench, charged with having caused one of the many fires which occurred at about that time in that borough
  He was defended by Mr. D Gaunson, who, after a lengthy hearing, discharged. The case was reported to the Crown law officer;who, not being satisfied with the decision at the magistrates in dismissing the case, have filed a presentment for a trial at the present criminal sittings of the Supreme Court. The boy was re arrested and brought before ?? St. Kilda Court on Saturday, when he was remanded to Melbourne.
  1 May 1889- Alexander Moran, a boy 11 years of age, pleaded guilty to setting fire to a shed at St Kilda, and his father, who was in court, stated that the boy had not had any intention of doing injury, but had set fire to grass near the shed as a boy's prank, and the shed then took fire His Honour stated that he did not think the boy had any criminal intention, and he would, therefore, allow him out at liberty on one surety of £100 for his good behaviour duning the next 12 months 'The prisoner's father became his surety,and he was then discharged.
   
• 4 May 1889 - PIGEON-STEALING BY LITTLE BOYS
  James Miller (seven), Arthur Moran (nine), and Phillip Tachentacher (eight years of age), were brought before the mayor of St Kilda and Mr Ashley, IP, on Friday, charged with having on the night of the 13th ult. stolen six pigeons, valued at 2, the property of John M Cartney, of Alfred street, Bala- clava Evidence was given that the boys had planned and effected the robbery together, intending to sell the pigeons to a bird fancier, when they were observed in Crimea street by an elder brother of Moran, who took the birds to the police station. It ap- peared that the boys sometimes slept out at night, and Senior constable Connell gave the boy Moran a bad character Mr Barber, of the Gordon Institute, offered to take charge of the two elder boys, to which the parents and the Bench consented , Mr Barber ex- plaining that the boys would be sent to Ferndale farm where they would be trained in husbandry and other work suitable to their age, and, when opportunity offered, transferred to the care of farmers and others willing to receive them. Their schooling and proper discipline would be attended to and they would be removed from, the bad com panionship of the streets. This course was agreed. The boy Miller was cautioned, and allowed to go home with his mother.
   
• Possible:
  21 Jul 1924 -At the corner of Charles and High streets, Prahran, about 2 o'clock on Saturday after- noon, Arthur Moran, of Packington street, St. Kilda, was knocked down by a motor lorry driven by Raymond Pearson, of Lord street, Richmond. Pearson is employed by Mr. Mcllody. Moran was taken to the Alfred Hospital by Constable North and admitted, suffering from concussion and abrasions.
   

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